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The entire abortion debate comes down to one question. . .

Abortion often feels like a very hard topic to talk over. So many factors seem to play a part in the debate. What if the mother can’t afford to take care of the child? What if she isn’t prepared for other reasons? What if the mother was raped? What if the baby will have abnormalities?  What if the mother is too young to raise a child? What if the family doesn’t support the mother? What if the father says she should have an abortion?

What if I told you the entire abortion debate can be narrowed down to one question? What if I told you the best answer to that question supports a pro-life stance?
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A Question Jehovah Witnesses Can’t Answer- Clay Jones

When I was in seminary in the 1970’s, I took Cults from Walter Martin and he had former Jehovah’s Witness Bill Cetnar speak to the class. What follows is the line of reasoning Cetnar presented. I’ve used it ever since with Jehovah’s Witnesses at my door, with JW Greg Stafford and other JWs on my radio program, and with JW elders at Kingdom Halls (By the way, I was 16 the first time I went into a Kingdom Hall to witness to the JWs).

Christian: Let me ask you only one question and after you answer it, I’ll answer any question you want. First I need to clarify a few things. In the New World Translation, John 1:1 reads: “In [the] beginning the Word was, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god.” Then in Isaiah 9:6 (NWT) we read: “For there has been a child born to us, there has been a son given to us; and the princely rule will come to be upon his shoulder. And his name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace.” So then, does Jehovah equal almighty God?

JW: Yes.

C: Now Jesus isn’t Jehovah, right?

JW: That’s right.

C: Jesus equals a Mighty God?

JW: That is correct.

C: Is Jehovah a true God or a false God?

JW: Jehovah is a true God.

C: Is Jesus a true God or a false God?

JW: Jesus is a true God.

C: Okay, here’s my question: How can you believe there are two true Gods when the Bible says there is only one God? After all, it says in Isaiah 43:10-11 (NWT), “Before me there was no God formed, and after me there continued to be none.” And Isa: 44:6 (NWT) says: “I am the first and I am the last, and besides me there is no God.”

JW: That passage is teaching that there are no capital “G” gods.

C: Hebrew doesn’t have capital letters so the capitalization of the “G” in those passages is an insertion by the NW translators to make us believe there are two categories of gods. It is equivalent to their just inserting the word “almighty” in the text. If the Lord had wanted to proclaim that “besides me there is no Almighty God” instead of what it really says, “beside me there is no god,” He could easily have had Isaiah insert the word “Almighty” in those passages. But He didn’t.

JW: Well, we only worship one God.

C: If I only loved one wife but was married to two women, I would still be a polygamist and your believing there are two true Gods even though you only worship one of them still makes you a polytheist. The Bible says there is only one God.

JW: But the Bible calls Satan a God.

C: Is Satan a true God or a false God?

JW: A false God.

C: You still have two true Gods.

JW: But in Ex. 4:16 (NWT) it says that Moses “will serve as God to him [Pharaoh].”

C: It says Moses will serve “as God.” In other translations of this verse it says Moses will be “like God” to him. Do you see a difference between serving “as” God or “like” God and really being a god? For example, if I said an older woman was “as a mother to me” it wouldn’t mean that I actually came out of her womb, right? Do you see the difference?”

JW: But the word “God” is just a title that can be used for those on the side of God.

C: Then there would be lots of true Gods, but John 17:3 (NWT) says “This means everlasting life, their taking in knowledge of you, the only true God, and of the one whom you sent forth, Jesus Christ.” If that’s true, how could you say that Jesus is a true God?

JW: As I said, we only worship one God.

C: But I’m not asking about how many Gods you worship, I’m asking about how many Gods you think are true. Can you think of a time when someone says that ‘X’ is the ‘only true’ ‘X’ that it doesn’t make everything else in that category false? If there God is the ‘only true’ God then any other god must be a false god, but you have already said that Jehovah and Jesus are both true Gods and that makes… count them… two true Gods.

JW: 1 Cor. 8:4-6 says “…there is no God but one. For even though there are those who are called ‘gods,’ whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many ‘gods’ and many ‘lords,’ there is actually to us one God the Father, out of whom all things are, and we for him; and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things are, and we through him.” See, the Father is God, not Jesus.

C: But you’ve already agreed there are two true Gods and this passage says there is only one God.

JW: You’re talking about the Trinity.

C: No, I’m pointing out that Jehovah’s Witnesses are polytheists who believe there is more than one true God, even though the Bible tells us there is only one true God.

JW: We didn’t come here to argue. [What?]

C: Okay, well, if you want to bring someone back, I’ll be glad to talk with them. [That hasn’t happened yet.]

This is all about logic. After all, if there is one God and if there are three persons in the Bible called God, then the three persons must be the one God. It is no surprise that I have yet to hear a coherent answer. I carried on an email dialog with one JW and after several months she ended our discussion with, “You just like to go around and destroy other people’s religions!”

What?

By the way, I really don’t let them ask me a question unless they can answer mine first because JWs, more than any cult I’ve talked to, will change the subject as soon as they see they are in a bind (I got that from Bill Cetnar, too).

Titus 2:13: “We wait for the blessed hope—the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ.”

Amen.


This article comes from http://www.clayjones.net/ the blog of Clay Jones, D.min. Associate Professor of Christian Apologetics at Biola University.

4 1/2 things that Mormons believe that Christians do not.

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3 Mormons is a youtube channel that often posts some doctrinal beliefs of Mormonism. Their latest video was about 5 things that Mormons believe that they don’t think Christians believe. Here is my video reply to that, I hope you enjoy!

 

Jesus established heavenly Kingdom in 1914? That’s what the Jehovah Witness’ think. . .

Jehovah Witness’ make the claim that Jesus heavenly kingdom was established in 1914 according the the biblical prophecy of Daniel about a great oak tree. Does their claim stand up to Biblical and historical criticism? Nope. And here is why. Continue reading

Most Popular Blogs of 2017

Hello world!

As the year comes to a close I thought it would be fun to look at the blogs that you all liked the most from this last year. Here is the top 10 blogs by popularity from 2017 along with a list of my personal top 5 favorites that didn’t make the to 10. Hope you all enjoy them and happy new year!

Top Ten Most Popular Blogs:

  1. Why the Christian Creation Model makes more sense of suffering than any other religion.
  2. The Single Most Damaging Statement to the Christian Faith
  3. If God is Loving Why is the Path to Heaven so Narrow?
  4. Why doesn’t God intervene to stop those who are doing evil?
  5. The Frightful Alternatives if Jesus Isn’t God.
  6. If you only learn one thing for defending Christianity, learn this.
  7. Three Blunders Atheists make arguing against God
  8. Does God send people to hell?
  9. Why does God seem different in the New Testament and the Old Testament?
  10. C.S. Lewis and how God exists with Pain and Suffering in the world
    Noah’s Favorite Five:

    1. Jesus Wouldn’t Argue. . .
    2. Why Even if you are pro-choice you should be angry with Planned Parenthood
    3. Is Christianity as violent as Islam?
    4. Pseudo Tolerance
    5. Thank you Atheist YouTuber JaclynGlenn

We shouldn’t celebrate Christmas. . . It’s based on pagan religions.

This time of the year among Christians there always erupts a bit of a debate on when Jesus was actually born and whether we should be celebrating Christmas or not. Some including non-Christians even try to make the argument that Christmas is based on Pagan holidays and therefore we should not even celebrate it. Here is some thoughts from Southern Evangelical Seminary.